Monday, November 17, 2008

Operant Conditioning Reading, p. 205-220

After reading about Operant Conditioning, do the following two things:

1. Ask B.F. Skinner 2 questions concerning Operant Conditioning. They can be philosophical in nature or they can be for clarification of something you do not understand.

2. Briefly explain the essential difference between operant and classical conditioning.

Blog is due by Thursday, November 20.

19 comments:

mcclearenf14me said...

lawl 1st

lovejonas91 said...

Uhh....
Not a real comment....so.... not first...

lovejonas91 said...

NOW THIS IS THE FIRST real comment:

Part 1:
1) The idea of Reinforcement makes a lot of sense. What sparked the creation of it?
2) Is it really true that by punishing people, they learn not to do that certain behavior? I don't think this is always the case.

Part 2:
- Operant Conditioning deals with the learning of active, voluntary behaviors that are shaped and maintained by their consequences(page 205). Example: When you smell pizza cooking in the oven, your mouth begins to water and you get hungry. Salivation is a part of this process.
- Classical Conditioning is a process of learning associations between stimuli (page 187). Example: A person on a diet in a weight management class earns points for every time they lose weight, eat healthy, and exercise. The points result in a reward since the points can be traded in for prizes like giftcards.

yipf said...

Natalie,
Actually you have the examples of both operant and classical conditioning switched around. You define both correctly but the salivation to the smell of pizza is classical cond. and the behavior to get rewards is operant cond.

Mr. Yip

lovejonas91 said...

Thanks for letting mr know Mr. Yip. Sorry for the mistake.
~Natalie

Katherine said...

Dear BF,
According to your theories, punishment by application would teach a child a lesson because it’d make them learn not to do more of something they don’t like. Often, however, children do too much of what they shouldn’t because they simply don’t care about their punishment. How would you handle a child like this, who, for example, refuses to complete the extra chores he/she is assigned for playing too many video games?

Also, which of the four ideas behind operant conditioning do you feel are the most accurate in mentoring young children to become good students/people?

Operant conditioning’s goal is to alter ones behavior. It can be defined, by Mr. Yip, as operating an environment to get a reinforcer or to avoid punishment. Classical conditioning deals with learning about the associations between stimuli, such as developing a response to particular stimuli.

- Katherine Gannon

Wynne said...

1. Punishment and reinforcement can have very negative results if brought to a high enough level, most likely resulting with either arrogance and conceit, or extreme weakness and fear. Could this be reversible if such a thing happens, and how?

2. What act of operant conditioning has the greatest results?

Operant conditioning is the act of changing and modifying one’s behavior based upon punishment or reward. It often involves just the interaction between people, not a person and an inanimate object. Classical conditioning involves learning and association. One learns to associate different things/situations in different manners depending on the previous effects of those instances on the person.

Marissa Mardo said...

1. How would a problem get solved if each of the four acts of operant conditioning failed in the situation?

2. Punishment by application is used on children by giving them additional work and aggravation in order for them to stop doing what they are asked to not do. Punishment by removal is used to give the child a temporary punishment for their wrong doing. It is possible in some situations to have a child who refuses to do the additional work they are asked to do, and does not care that they are "grounded" from the activity they enjoy, and instead finds something else to do. What would you do in this situation? Continue to take the child's enjoyable hobbies away until they give in to your request?

Operant conditioning deals with altering and changing your behavior in order to receive a reward or avoid a punishment. Classical conditioning involves learning about associations, and developing responses to certain stimuli.
*Marissa Mardo

MLRoxYourSox said...

Well,

A question I would like to ask is which is better, positive or negative reinforcement? I noticed that on page 208 the out come of both was that studying would be increased in the future. I would think positive would be better but what would Skinner think?

"Classical conditioning can help explain the acquisition of many learned behaviors, including emotional and physiological responses" (pg. 205). This is basically saying that you learned to do something because of a certain experience. The best example I can give is the bell at school. We have learned that when that bell goes off, we get up and run to our next class.

"Skinner's operant conditioning explains learning as a process in which behavior is shaped and maintained by its consequences" (pg. 207). I definitely agree with reinforcement which is the occurrence of a stimulus or event following a response that increases the likelihood of that response being repeated" (pg. 207). An example of reinforcement would be that of the bee at the end of the slide. I remember that it hurt very much and now every time I think about going down a slide, I think about that bee sting and I check the slide just to be sure.

~ Michaela Laliberte

Ben Pickering said...

Good evening yall,
1. What is the best form of discipline to apply to someone so a problem is not continuous?
2.If punishment is really not necesarily an effective discipline, then why is it so accepted in society nower days?(jail, detention, etc.)

The diffierence between operant and classical is that operant conditioning is to change ones behavior in hopes of improvement, while classical conditioning deals more with adapting to something or just learning different ways to get by.
Yours Truly
Benjamin Miguel.

McCall Theriault said...

1. I would ask B.F. Skinner what lead him to do what he did? why did he go down the path he did and why he chose to evaluate "Order of Behavior"?


2. Operant conditioning is the basic learning that involves changing the probability of a response being repeated by maintaining the consequences of that response; also called Skinnerian conditioning.(page 207)
classical conditioning is the basic learning process that involves repeatedly pairing a neutral stimulus with a response-producing stimulus until the neutral stimulus elicits the same response; also called respondent conditioning or Pavlovian conditioning.
The difference is that of the experiment that is produced between them. What types of subjects and what id done to evaluate the situation before and after the experiment.

horseshoe804 said...

alrighty then,


1)

1) What happens when your trying to teach your child using Operant conditioning, but nothing seems to work. What happens then?
2) Why is it, when you punish a student for taking away a cell phone, such an insignificant item,and then give them detention, they will still continue to use the phone? You've punhished them already, so what now?







2)

*Classical conditioning- present a neutural stimulus wtih something that would not create a response
Ex: Ivan Pavlov- dog and bell
*Operant conditioning- operationg on the envioment to get a reward or avoid punishment.
Ex: B.F. Skinner- doing homework and getting a star or a dollar.

~nunes

laurynp said...

1) My first question would be is why does operant conditioning state that it is not a persons choice for their behavior? One does not just act the way they do just for the fun of it, they act on true feelings and choices. If they did not than wouldn't people be lying to themselves?

My second question is what are all of the ratios skinner created? I did not understand them while i was reading and feel as though they are not very realistic.

2) Classical conditioning is when an existing behavior is brought out through a certain action from someone else. Once that action is stopped, the behavior ceases to be shown. Operant conditioning is when there are reinforcements such as punishments or rewards for one's actions. Those rewards and punishments shape that persons behavior based on experience

Michael said...

1a. What is the true best way of reinforcing the behavior in different situations
1b. What is the true best way of punishing the behavior in different situations

2. Operant Conditioning deals with voluntary behaviors that are shaped and maintained by their consequences for example:

When you hear the phone ring and the caller ID says "Lincoln High school" and you begin to flip.

Classical conditioning involves learning and association. example. when mr. yips kids do there homework he puts up a sticker on a chart at the end of the week he gives them money for each sticker earned

Chris said...

1a. For reinforcement, what do you mean when you say it's supposed to increase the liklihood ofoperant being repeated?

1b. Which do you feel is better positive or negative reinforcement?

2. Operant conditioning deals with voluntary behavior, while classical conditioning deals with learning.

-Chris E. (period 1)

thewhomynewtatto said...

1.can a behavior come back from extinction i mean look a the mammoth
2.how could anyone think that if you reward somone everyonce in a while that it will work i would be upset if i did somting good lets say 3 times in a row after number 3 im not going to be motivated anymore.

prt.2

Roberto said...

1. Which schedule of reinforcement is the most resistant to extinction?

2. Did your idea for the Skinner Box for operant conditioning come from Thorndike's Puzzle Box?

Classical Conditioning is a basic learning process in which you associate different stimuli to the same response.

Operant Conditioning is used to maintain or erase voluntary behaviors elicited from the environment.

Matt L said...

1. What caused you to create the idea of operant conditioning?

2. Do you truely feel that by puinishing people for their actions you can control their behavior?

The difference between the two is actually very simple. Classical conditioning works by rewarding the subject for their good actions, while operant conditioning chastizes them for their wrong actions.

Mike D'Amore said...

1. what happens of all four forms of reinforcement dont work?

2. how did you think of the skinner box?

classical deals with reflexes operant deals with learned reactions